– You’re listening to cannabis health radio. Here are your hosts Ian Jesssop and Corrie Yelland. – Ian: Welcome to another episode of cannabis health radio, I’m Ian Jessop. And I’m Corrie Yelland. – Ian: Our guest today had several severe injuries from a work-related accident. And after being on pharmaceutical medications for more than 20 years the side effects were wreaking havoc with his body. Then it was discovered he had bladder cancer Here to tell us his story is Jack Kungel from Ontario Canada. Jack good of you to join us thanks very much for this! – Jack: How are you doing today? – Ian: We’re great, jack take us back to the day you had your work accident and tell us exactly what happened – Jack: I was the welder at a processing plant and a bunch of Steel was about to fall and I was going to land on my legs and feet and so in order to slow the impact down I caught it with my hands and it tore my rotator cuffs both bicep tendon it took my leg out but I had already had a previous injury with my leg where I had snapped it up and tore the meniscus tendon and crucial Ignat and that was already wearing a leg brace for 17 years I was no longer able to work after that injury so I was put out to pasture in 1990 so over 20 years they I was on different pharmaceuticals I was on oxycontin morphine the fentanyl patch before I was given out as a script the vomiting started because of the chemical toxicity that I that I had so by the time was all said and done now I had high blood pressure my cholesterol was high I had gained weight I became diabetic and I couldn’t keep any food down I lost my teeth from vomiting and then along came bladder cancer and over that 20 years of vomiting 20 times a day I broke four ribs over 300 times somebody a friend of mine had crossed my path and told me that I need to start to vaporize and ingest cannabis that he says you’re dying here jack and that was from the chemical toxicity and at that time didn’t realize I was already battling cancer at that time I hadn’t started to ingest the cannabis yet I just started to vaporize and I cut my cannabis consumption down by 75% through how efficient the vaporizer worked and so then he had asked me if I had started to ingest the capsules yet that he had left me and I said no I I hadn’t and so I started to ingest these cannabis capsules and there was just D carb cannabis that was put inside zero capsules over the period of six months I got off every single medication that was on I had no intention of getting off the medications I was taking it for pain and then slowly one by one by one by one every single medication until now I was going I was on maximum metformin for my diabetes medication meaning I was going on to the needle so now I take absolutely nothing I take out my I just had a perfectly clear bill of health like my cholesterol was perfect my blood pressure was perfect everything my blood sugar was perfect and now since February the 11th of 2011 I was diagnosed with terminal bladder cancer okay before we get into the bladder cancer I just want to go back to some of the medications you were on because you were on a whole list of medications yeah you were on oxycontin morphine toradol yeah the fentanyl patch I was chewing his many Tylenol for as I could keep down because the that I was I was in so much pain nothing worked all that you know all those medications do is they numb the head is all they do the pain is still there and you develop a tolerance and that’s it and and they can pump as much that into you as they want it doesn’t help how many visits to therapy did you have over the years oh my god I had the most visit since I had 500 and in in one straight run 584 visits 584 did the drugs or therapy help you at all the not to drugs no no the therapy did and what they were doing is the the I would literally hold on to the table and then they would take this seat belt and they would wrap it around my arm and they would do a figure eight around their shoulder and they would lean back and they would stretch my arm because I couldn’t lift my arms and they would stretch my arm went to the point where they could wrap wrap it around my head and then once they did that I got to use my hands and arms for maybe two three hours after the session and after that everything would go back to gridlock all the medications you were on did the doctors say anything to you about the quantity of drugs that you were taking they gave them to me but surely they must have said listen you’re on far too many medications we have to take you off some of them but no you would think wouldn’t you but instead they probably said have another well this this is what it is you know once one doesn’t work so now you add this to that if that doesn’t work we’ll continue to take this and we’re gonna add this to your regime okay and you see that the bottom line is that the the body is quite a an amazing and amazing thing and I discovered that when the cancer came I was diagnosed with terminal bladder cancer and so this is what I did done that I and I was already ingesting cannabis so I figured I had the cancer for about six years because it felt like my back was broken hey they told me I had herniated discs pulled muscle year old live with it you know and so for I get up in the morning and I had two three two-liter Pepsi bottles frozen out all the time and I would put him on my back where the chairs that would sit and I would sit out like that until I went to bed that’s how bad the pain was and then finally when I passed all the blood from Beth the bladder cancer oh whoa we got a problem here now Houston so when I went to the doctors and then this is this is what what happened here I handed in that my mother bottle that I peed in and six weeks later I’m phoning to see what happened and then he told me that if there was a problem that they would have contacted me well I would think blood in the urine would dust you would think indicate that there’s something amiss like I had slashed my wrist this is how much blood and it wasn’t until a friend of mine that works there she come back from vacation found the bottle you know and like this it was terrible and she asked if I was still peeing blood yes and then BAM III she says get in here three days later I had an ultrasound five days later I was in Windsor to see the urologist and then two days later I had an ultrasound and then this is what they did and then it’s come back and said here you go this is what you got then I learned about the cannabis in the oil so I pounded myself with the oil how did you learn about the cannabis oil well it started my friend from the used to live here in town he moved out to the East Coast because they wouldn’t let him have his chickens here he had sent me the running from the excuse me running from the cure video and I was familiar with cannabis and you know and familiar with cannabis oil but for more of a recreational reason and so when I started to look at this video and start listen here and so then what I did is from there is okay I got to do this so I got as much cannabis oil into me as I possibly could and the cancer was gone for a year that then it came back so I consumed a lot of cannabis oil and so the missing link of what everybody needs to understand here cannabis isn’t like the oil and this isn’t a magic bullet that’s the easy part the hard part is making the lifestyle change necessary to save your life you see this is what happens when a cancer cell develops it develops insulin receptors so any type of fructose glucose dextrose any types of sugar that you put in goes directly to feed that cancer cell a cancer cell also depends on methionine is concentration in methionine is found in red meat dairy products eggs chicken and fish now I’m going to give you some numbers to it there red media has 180 units of methionine dairy products 195 units of methionine eggs have 240 units of a thigh nine chicken has 460 units of Makai nine and fish is off the charts with Matheny so there’s somebody that has cancer those foods are deadly that’s what cancer smelling dogs smell his Matheny nine all cancer gives off the thigh nine gas cancer cells thrive in an acidic environment so because I never changed my lifestyle I never changed anything I just pounded it with the oil it brought the cancer off for a bit but it came back because they didn’t change anything once I changed everything in my life and then I had results so you don’t know what happened because I came up with this you know so I don’t eat any red meat I don’t eat anything what I just told you there and this is the healthiest I’ve ever been in my life how much cannabis oil were you taking I was taking at one time almost five grams of oil a day when I was just taking the oil five grams did you get high no seriously see the high passes see this is what everybody needs to understand you know everybody’s worried about the high now high is the least of your concerns you’re dying amen yeah you know that’s the least of your concerns and I don’t understand people I don’t like how it makes me feel well you like how the chemo is making you feel do you like the vomiting that you’re going through you like you know so I do not understand because cannabis has had for the last 75 years this picture painted so it’s very difficult to remove that picture the stigma that’s in that’s implanted in everybody’s head you know what everybody needs to understand this has been here in cannabis law has been here so long that that’s what the three wise men brought baby Jesus they brought cannabis and oil which is cannabis oil frankincense oil and more oil and that’s the Holy Trinity that’s what the Bible devote that right there and that’ll cure just about any sickness on the planet nobody’s ever died from it exactly exactly so Jack when you were given the diagnosis that you had bladder cancer by the doctors what did they tell you did they recommend chemo and radiation yes and what did you tell them no no I loved them to give me BCG which is the Basilica Clemente guren which is the tuberculosis virus and that was injected into my bladder to stimulate an immune response and so my bladder isn’t where my immune system responded so I broke out into this rash outside of my body and I had it for a year and a half all right there was times like but I have a an eight piece band there was times he couldn’t play with the band I couldn’t go outside into the Sun I saw three different skin specialists and every single one of them gave me a different story and I said it happened when you did this so I took pictures of my rash and I went to another guy in the garage and I said hey am i allergic to my cannabis he goes no no no no no he goes on my Jackie says those are acid burns he says everything touching you is burning movie-like acid the water you’re washing and the clothes you’re wearing the food you’re eating he says you’re acidic this is why you’ve got cancer and this is when I zero in on the diet so I went in and I made this smoothie up and it’s an alkaline smoothie I had that rash for a year and a half and in nine days after drinking that smoothie was gone so all of a sudden I realized we tripped onto something here so I started to ask some questions on it and a group that I belonged to and they started to ask about there’s anybody have these rashes and oh my god yes yes or you might have even gone through that rash when you were going through stuff no I didn’t I didn’t but I’ve certainly heard of it before yeah yes and that’s that’s the acidic rash dad that should tip you off right then and there that that’s why you have cancer so you made this smoothie and I’ve been on your blog and looked at the ingredients man you have a lot of ingredients it’s it has it it looks great its life in a jar no absolutely absolutely and all’s I can tell you is is that’s the best thing that you could do even if you’re not sick that’s the best thing that you can do for yourself you see our biggest mistake is we’ve all been trained that we we need to eat meat we don’t have teeth like dogs man this is how you need to understand like and at front of bars intestines as three times their body length ours is ten there’s a reason for that this is why we have such rates of colon cancer and everything like that and see what everybody needs to understand and all the dementia and everything that that we have is because the sugar industry pointed the finger at the fat industry and said it’s your fault that everybody’s sick and so when they removed the fat out of everybody diets and what happens we need the fat to make everything bioavailable to ourselves so then come to solve people because the salt that we have this iodized salt is absolutely nothing in it so now they remove the salt in our diets and all the nitrates and all the the preservatives in the in the foods and so now this depletes the mylar layer now you lose communication with amongst the cells and then stuff just goes south nothing works nothing can function there is no communication when they injected this tuberculosis virus into your bladder what did it do to your prostate the prostate yeah the nothing to the prostate oh I thought you had an issue with your prostate yes yes I did but through the because through the suppositories see this is how idea that I ingested it I inhaled it I use cannabis every which way right that I could so I did suppositories also and so that’s what that’s what addressed it so yeah so now I have absolutely no issues the only issues that I have now is because of so many systems of growing up and looking in with the camera in the penis is a muscle there and just before you get into the bladder is another muscle there so those two muscles are damaged and I deal with scar tissue all the time so it always restricts the urine flow so see the the prostate now doesn’t that was no longer an issue now it’s start tissue to deal with and then hopefully my I have my last visit coming up here and that’s it I’m done so you started taking the cannabis oil you you and you develop this rash which you got rid of with your smoothie and people people can find that on your blog what how can people find that I actually a friend of mine made a web page for me Jack Campbell con K you ngel okay yeah they can find the recipe for the smoothie there yes and so within lots of information there for everything that you need to do to like sir reputation you know city choline and and everything and explains and like backdoor medicine emotional causes of cancer like a lot of people don’t realize how deep you have to look so for myself that the it goes all the way back for me as a child for something that I had kept in and being being raped by my uncle hey so it all reared its head all at the same time the cancer the nightmares okay and so that those kind of things if you keep them in there that’s where those type of cancers develop down in the lower organs right so stress and everything it feeds it feeds that you have to address when you’re addressing your sickness you got address it from all from all ends mentally spiritually physically and spiritually I don’t mean God I mean you need to you’re going into your own intestinal fortitude like your soul your higher power because there’s nobody coming down to do this you have to and like I said in doing the lifestyle change is the hardest thing that you’re ever going to do yeah and I’m so glad that you’ve brought this up Jack because you know cannabis oil is wonderful and it can work some real miracles but it isn’t you know a cure all you need to make a holistic change your entire self lutely I work hard every single day in order to remain healthy yeah my maintenance dose I still take a couple grams of oil check why do you think you don’t get high from from the oil so you reach a point it’s like it’s like anything else it’s like you can drink one beer you can drink five beers mm-hmm it’s like it’s like anything else and so but what actually happens hey you see now the high is feeling good hmm so you see I still have all my other health issues that I need to deal with so one see that the difficult that people have is getting through the high it’s like you’re gonna you’re going through the snowstorm and when you come out the other side the visibility it’s crystal clear but you gotta go through it when you were diagnosed with bladder cancer and did you tell the doctors what you were going to do absolutely what did they say you said well it’s my choice I and he did what he needed to do and then did what I needed to do and then when the cancer had come back so he said now it says the bladders got to come out so now I’ve already had passed my expiry date so now it took another 7 months to go see the doctor now that he’s sending me to to have my body parts removed and I told him I said no I said I just need to do this I said I I had just learned this I said that everything’s gonna be go but you do what you need to do so when I got to London at that Hospital to that doctor and we got into a big argument because he didn’t want to go in and have a love day and then I told him I said I had treated myself I said I had treated the endocannabinoid system he said and he corrected me said excuse me mr. bungle he says he says if you’re going to use those words he says it’s called the endocrine system and this is my exact words to him he goes really I guess you didn’t get the memo that day when they talked about the endocannabinoid system the most important in the body I said no it makes me wonder how did you actually become a doctor Oh perfect oh boy here those are fighting words oh it was because I was a I’m fighting for my life here yeah and when he told me that he didn’t have to go in and look they already did seven months ago and I said it’s my bladder I said it’s not yours then he asked me for the list of medications I I says all Isis okay and so he gave me a piece of paper so I wrote down all the medications that I was on I said and I made sure that the paper that I wrote it big enough it covered the paper and I said I need one more page and he said there’s more it says hey I said this is your system not mine I said this is the what your system put me on and I said I’m going to show you my system and then I wrote cannabis across the other one I said there I said I replaced all those medications with this and he said well that’s just anecdotal information and I said well Jacob anecdotal Punggol is sitting in front of you right now I said ask me any type of question you want I said the problem is that says you people never want to talk to us I said Here I am so I reached in my pocket and they pulled out my meter I’m diet like I said I was diabetic and my blood sugar numbers I said I could never keep under twelve thirteen I pulled that meter out and I start clicking numbers and he turned away I said hey hey hey that’s it this is my office visit here I said you need to look here and I said do you know what thousand two thousand milligrams of metformin is and he says I don’t not familiar with that medication I says well I says that’s diabetes medication I said that means I’m maxed out I said I’m going on the needle I says now I says my insulin numbers are perfect my blood sugar is five point four five point eight five point seven all the time and like I said now I take absolutely nothing to control any of everything that I had just my cannabis that’s it and my diet so you were talking to a doctor who had no knowledge of meth form he would not know what that medication is because he wouldn’t be dealing with that yeah he’s a specialist yeah yes yeah he’s a specialist so like he’s the guy that removes that would be he would removed the bladder he would remove like a kidney or a liver or whether though that’s what he does did he kick your rear end out of the office well when he no no no no he didn’t kick me out absolutely not finally he turns the book around these slides that over and he points down there and dr. decla had already told him that was going to be an interesting patient he agreed see I play Santa Claus at Christmastime and this was just before December and I said yeah I said that you’re not going to look and says you need to go after Christmas I said I play Santa Claus so we went in at February and it was actually three days before my birthday now with love while this this shit pardon my french this stuff works out okay and that’s when he went in and looked and it was gone and then he leans over me I’m still leaning on the table and he means over which is hand in my chest and he says mr. Congo I suggest you continue to do what it is that you’re doing I said it’s called the endocannabinoid system doctor you can say it for you you are an interesting patient once you take your life into your own hands you come to realize you know you’re the most powerful person in the room you need to understand that and it’s very sad that like when you go into the room and you know more about your sickness than he does that’s the problem I have Jack I want to read for listeners some of the things that cannabis has done for you since you’ve been taking it you said your pain has gone from nine point five out of ten every day two or three oh yeah yep you stopped throwing up after 20 years in the same day you started and yet you haven’t gotten sick since no you could sleep for the first time in 20 years without the feeling of your arms being ripped off yep yeah you also say I couldn’t lift my arms over my head it’s uncomfortable now but you can do it yeah oh I didn’t even know that happened I had to assist if I was gonna pick something up above shoulder I I had to take my my hand and lift lifts my arm up so I’m going to do that and all of a sudden I realized look where my arm is I’m already past the point you know and I didn’t even know what happened and that is what is so cool with cannabis because like everybody expects stuff to happen overnight you didn’t get sick overnight this stuff doesn’t happen overnight it’s so gradual but it will do exactly what you needed to do and this the best part of it is I look at it like this way and if you look at what it says on on when you go to the web page there it says you’re the computer run the program and that’s cannabis see this is how I looked at it you’re the computer and cannabis is our antivirus you ingest cannabis it just goes to where stuff isn’t working yeah another thing you have here is you had a gradual weight loss in three years of 46 pounds I’m at I’m at 62 now 62 pounds Wow yes Wow good for you yeah and you talked about your blood sugar too it’s in the normal range yeah you haven’t had a cold or flu in a number of years yes well I have one of my band members you guys would like this he’s one of the there’s actors eight of us and four of us they’re licensed medicinal users to have MS and the other one has osteoarthritis and the one fella he was just here I was hoping that he would still be here when you called so you could actually talk to him and he was one the first 700 people in Canada that had section 56 allowed to use cannabis 27 years ago and he was paralyzed from the neck down with his hand mass and now he couldn’t feed himself and now the guy plays in my band whoa boy we’d love to talk we’d love to talk to him yeah yeah we we can we can we can arrange that okay you can arrange that another thing that can be end of his nominal phenomenal person great another thing that cannabis did for you see the fissure cracks in my feet that would bleed and need medical attention went away and they’re soft yes so it does wonders for your skin yes the moles and warts & skin tags started to fall off yes and you’re diabetic nerve pain is gone yes you sound almost like a normal person my last report was normal you have no idea what that means is somebody that I mean for so long you know that your blood pressure your diabetic there’s that the other thing you can’t function and you know and when pain is all you think about you know it gets very very very tiring so and then all of a sudden you know they’re just so gradual and like I say I I I can’t praise this plant enough that’s all I can tell you yeah doing this it’s the only thing on the planet that we’re hardwired for nothing else we have the cb1 and cb2 receptors the cb1 receptors they have the one that it runs our organs the cb2 is our immune system our immune system is between our pie hole and our butt hole you see our gut flora is where it all happens and when our gut flora is awry this is where the cancers come from and so as soon as you’re on any type of antibiotic or anything like that that is kill the gut flora so now when the gut flora is gone your immune system is toast so something so simple as this is fermented food so like your sauerkraut your kimchi you can boxA the kombucha the curve oz which is fermented beet juice so in 4 ounces of sauerkraut there’s sixteen trillion probiotics for your guts man and so once you start to get that stuff she starts to function in the body yeah it’s simple but nobody tells you this because it’s like this if you’ve seen on TV you don’t want to eat it one of the things that I’ve noticed is that people don’t want to make and this is a generalization people don’t want to make changes in their life until they get ill and then they will then they want a quick fix they want something yes but then sometimes it’s too late it’s very difficult you know for because of what I learned in that and so I help people when they go to the doctor and I help them go to find a doctor to get legal a and how the problem is nobody knows what to do with their cannabis they’re just here you go here’s your script they hand them the cannabis and now at the door they go so now here’s somebody that’s let’s let’s just pick somebody that’s 65 years old and they’ve never seen this before in their life so and all they know is smoke it mm-hmm that’s all they know and you see when you smoke it just so you know that smoking is absolutely nothing to do with you getting high whatsoever that’s just a byproduct of the fire that happens so when you inhale it’s just the heat that that passes through the rest of the cannabis that vaporizes the THC so this is why when you when you vaporize it’s so effective because you have the leftover product P and 99% of the cannabinoids are still in the product that’s pretty cool you get to use it two times do you only vape now or do you take the oil as well I use it every which way I can okay have you ever juiced cannabis yeah it’s my smoothie no what does that taste like it’s like you’re eating a leaf that tastes like a salad yeah but you see that in my smoothie also I throw in a tablespoon in I think it weighs like three or four grams of D carb cannabis I throw my smoothie every day that would knock most people’s socks off and I drink that in the morning and that doesn’t include now the coconut oil extract that I’m going to ingest and that during the course of the day and vaporization but it’s like this I can function I can walk I couldn’t watch I couldn’t go anyplace and my goodness now I’m out walking three four miles a day it’s awesome yeah it must be a remarkable feeling for you to know what you were and know what you are today oh it’s incredible you know it really really is and especially that like the my friends that have watched saw the change and what what happens when you go through all this and and in cannabis it helps to calcify the pineal gland and then like it removes the veils from everything you know you see through everything now and everything is just so crystal clear and for me what it is the object of the game here is just eat it this is all you need to do and if everybody just starts to eat it you nobody would ever be sick my friend Steven there the guy for 27 years hasn’t had a flu Urkel in 27 years with that taiga that’s amazing yeah yes should change that Michael Jackson song betta to eat it just eat it yes I won’t sing it and when yet when you when you talk to somebody you know that has been a chronic pain for you know 40 years and and I’ve shown him how to make the coconut extract you know and four days later they phone you up and they say oh my god this is the first time I slept in 20 years I know what it’s like because I was there yeah yeah and you know there’s been such a transformation in yourself and what’s wonderful is that you’re passing on your knowledge to other people and helping them to transform their lives it doesn’t cost anything to share knowledge no did the two of you know each other did you know jack corey prior to his recovery yes yeah I did didn’t I jack yes yeah yeah yeah we Skyped do you notice a change in him I didn’t know him that well but yeah definitely um he’s been born he blossomed exactly jack appreciate this it’s very good of you to tell your story and we hope it helps others and it’s very informative thank you very much you’re welcome thank you jack before we sign off I’d just like to say that this is the Christmas season and I hope you think of Corey and myself as cannabis health radio if you like us to continue with these podcasts please go to our website cannabis health radio.com and make a donation make a pledge as I’ve mentioned before and Cory is mentioned before the donation can be big or small a one-time donation or a monthly donation $3.00 is the monthly donation minimum the price of a cup of coffee whatever you like all donations are greatly appreciated and help us in our mission to help others wherever you are the world 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